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Sal Mayweather

Libertarian meme creator, author of Anti-Politics, and host of The Subversive Spectrum. Known online as "Sal the Agorist" with 275K+ followers on X.

April 1, 2026 · 21:02

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Sal Mayweather

Libertarian meme creator, author of Anti-Politics, and host of The Subversive Spectrum. Known online as "Sal the Agorist" with 275K+ followers on X.

About this episode

Mark Edgington sits down with libertarian meme legend Sal Mayweather to talk about his unlikely path from aspiring K Street lobbyist to one of the most recognizable voices in the libertarian corner of the internet. They dig into how Ron Paul's 2008 debate performances started it all, building a massive following through anti-government memes, getting recognized by Roger Ver and Elon Musk on X, the Bitcoin block size wars, and why he pivoted hard into crypto privacy with Zano, Firo, and Freedom Dollar. Plus why he refuses to stop speaking out against the war machine even as his reach gets shadow banned 65-80% — and why KYC is the real threat to financial privacy.

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When I look back at my past self, man, I was just brainwashed. Literally brainwashed.

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Full transcript

A complete speaker-labeled transcript of this conversation. Mark Edgington hosts Mark Edge Show.

Mark:It is Mark Edge with you. Before we go on, I want to tell you about Psy. It's P-S-Y dot X-Y-Z. Psy is a new project that I'm working with. It's a cryptocurrency project. It's private. It's a smart contract platform. And it's scalable. It's already done more than half a million transactions in a second in beta. So it is ready to rock and will be released later on in the first half of this year. It's P-S-Y dot X-Y-Z. Check it out.

Sal Mayweather:Sal.

Mark:Yeah. So is Sal your real name or?

Sal Mayweather:No. It's a pseudonym.

Mark:Okay. Everything's made up. I don't want to know your real name. Please don't tell me.

Sal Mayweather:I don't blame you for not wanting to know either.

Mark:So I had the pleasure recently of being on your X show. This is an X stream. Is it supposed to be X stream? I don't know what it's called.

Sal Mayweather:You know, I like that. I've never actually put that together, but it is an X stream stream. And I like that. Yeah, it was great having you on. Honestly, everybody said that it was one of the best shows we've ever done. I think it's already up to like 30,000 views. We're only on Twitter because I've been banned from every other platform. So I don't think that's too shabby for one social media platform, but that was in no small part due to you. So hopefully we can keep it going.

Mark:Well, 20 years worth of broadcasting doesn't hurt when doing a show. But I really want to talk about me and how frigging awesome I am. What I want to talk about is, you and your brand on X, these are sort of an unlikely thing to happen. So tell me the first little bit before the first big retweet. What were your thoughts? What were you doing?

Sal Mayweather:So initially I was a neoconservative, warmongering lunatic back in the Bush days. I was going to school for political science and I had these dreams. It sounds crazy now to say it, but I was going to go on K Street and become a lobbyist and make all kinds of money. That was my goal. And I was not your normal Republican, obviously.

Mark:So like political memes, the sort of righty memes kind of things?

Sal Mayweather:No, they were libertarian memes. Anti-government, I would just say. You'd be surprised how popular the anti-government message is. I mean, you wouldn't, of course, but most people would. And that's how I built a following.

Mark:Even the Republicans like it until they're in power. And vice versa. The Democrats like it when the Republicans are in power. It's really kind of weird. But yeah, then you started getting some pretty big retweets and the account blew up. Now, who was your first big retweet? What happened there?

Sal Mayweather:Honestly, I don't remember. I used to get a lot of big Bitcoin maxi accounts way back in the day. Before the whole block size war stuff like that. Well, then there are maxis. Yeah, right. It's like Dan Held and all those guys would retweet me. And Roger Ver, he would retweet me. I remember Roger Ver saying, Sally Mayweather is my new favorite Twitter account back then.

Mark:Yeah, yeah. That's what made me follow you.

Sal Mayweather:Yeah. So he's actually put a lot of people onto my account. So it's taken off. But lately, I've been sort of shadow banned because I've been speaking out against the war machine.

Mark:Let's talk about the shadow banning here in just one second. I want to make sure that we get through. So first off, if people don't know who Roger Ver is, describe Roger Ver to me.

Sal Mayweather:So Roger Ver, they call him Bitcoin Jesus. He's one of the kindest people that I know. And he's also one of the most influential people behind the scenes in the Liberty movement. Every time I talk to somebody who's got a new project or something, Roger Ver is always backing them and he's behind them a hundred percent, supporting them in a variety of ways.

Mark:How could you have this man on the show? It's like, he's a heretic.

Sal Mayweather:And then just based off of that backlash, I thought, again, I better look into this guy because he's pissing off all the right people. You're only taking flack when you're over the target, right?

Mark:Bingo.

Sal Mayweather:And the more I delved into the block size issue and stuff like that, I realized he was a hundred percent right. That's when I became a huge supporter for Bitcoin Cash and big blocks in general. And of course that did me no favors in terms of following with the maxis.

Mark:Yeah. I think that it's time to heal the rift in Bitcoin, in my opinion. Everybody got their say and things went the way they went. And I don't have to like it. I just gotta sort of live with it.

Sal Mayweather:I got the Zano shirt on. Yeah. I think that privacy is way more than the war on crypto. It's the war on people. Because if you don't have privacy, you don't have really much of anything. The government is getting intrusive in every way in your life.

Mark:And remember, ladies and gentlemen, the FBI sent out a memo last year in 2025 asking good Americans to use cryptography to keep themselves obscured from the Chinese. So even if you think that everything's fine with the American government and that no one could ever get into the American government and find out all the stuff that they have, and no Russian would ever hack in and get that information, and that the United States government, when it gets digital information, it's like a big vault and it never loses that information.

Sal Mayweather:Well, it's interesting because the greatest threat to our privacy is from the government. And for the government to say China is the issue, let's not forget when Eric Swalwell was found in bed with a Chinese spy. So it's like, who's really revealing information to the Chinese here?

Mark:It's progress, right?

Sal Mayweather:And of course, I tell people KYC is the illicit activity because that's what exposes our information. When they collect that information, where else would you divulge all such personal details if not through government-forced or coerced KYC?

Mark:It's true. KYC really puts you in a pickle and the government and their contractors, they lose this stuff all the time. It's like a sieve. In my opinion, it's the only sane thing to do. Patriotic, anti-patriot, don't care. Kardashian, the Yankees, I don't care what it is you think. You need to be using encrypted communications and encrypted transactions as best you can.

Sal Mayweather:As I was saying, I was in the Bitcoin Cash community and then I sort of pivoted to the privacy community. And I'm actually going to be speaking at the Bitcoin Cash conference in May about the need for privacy on the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.

Mark:Huh. I kind of thought of Bitcoin Cash as like, over. That's how you see it, huh?

Sal Mayweather:No, not necessarily, because now you can trade it privately on the Zano blockchain. You can trade anything privately on the Zano blockchain, right?

Mark:Yeah, literally, which is why I'm such a huge proponent of it. Including, they have the Freedom Dollar here, which is the first decentralized stablecoin built on a private blockchain. I mean, that's huge. It's completely unfreezable, unlike Tether and USDC. So Zano is killing it and they're really very innovative.

Sal Mayweather:That's why, again, sounds crazy because I started off in the sound money. That's what kind of sparked my interest in Ron Paul. You think I would have read that part that Rothbard said about fungibility, but I just kind of skipped over it. Had I listened, I would have been much more early to the privacy game.

Mark:Yeah, everybody can kick themselves about why they didn't get into crypto sooner. But ultimately, we all got here when we got here and we're still early and it's still a good thing. And I'm not in crypto as much for the investment aspect, number go up. I mean, my life is good. I make enough money. I'm good. Did you get some retweets by Elon Musk?

Sal Mayweather:Yes, I got a bunch of retweets by Elon Musk, especially during the early days of Javier Milei, because I was excited that we had this libertarian, like a real Rothbardian. I think he named one of his dogs Rothbard. And I was really excited. So I went on a meme-making spree about Javier Milei. And Elon Musk liked a lot of those. He posted a lot of them, retweeted a lot of them, quote tweeted me a few times.

Mark:So what's better, a quote tweet or a retweet?

Sal Mayweather:I think a retweet is probably better. At the same time, I'll take whatever I can get.

Mark:Yeah. If I can get anything quoted and tweeted by Musk, I'll take it.

Sal Mayweather:Right, exactly. The worst is when he actually steals the meme. When you make the meme, he steals it and then he posts it. There's this one, it's pretty funny, of this guy and he's laying in bed and his girlfriend's on top of him. We'll just leave it there. But he's also on the computer. So he's paying attention to the computer. And it's like, Javier Milei wins resounding victory or whatever it is. And you can see my little tag in the reflection of the window. But he posted it as if it was his own. And I'm like, you just started this monetization program, man. Help me out here.

Mark:Yeah. And then he's stealing memes. Well, you know, it's funny being somebody like Musk, you don't get to do what everybody else does, which is steal memes. I mean, memes are just stolen on the internet. But because you own the multi-billion dollar meme generation thing, you got to retweet, man. And I think he's probably learned that over time. But I can forgive to some extent so long as he's learned his lesson.

Sal Mayweather:Yeah, well, I think he no longer really retweets me that often because, again, I'm always posting about the war machine and Israel. And I don't think he shares that opinion. Or if he does, I hypothesize he's wise enough not to share it.

Mark:Right. Exactly. So let's talk about that. What is demonetization? What is shadow banning? What is that?

Sal Mayweather:It's really interesting because when they started the monetization program, they were cutting me huge checks and slowly that went down and down and down. And then they changed how the content creators get paid. So that has all fallen naturally, which I'm okay with. I wasn't getting paid to start with. So I'm not in the meme game for the money.

Mark:It does feel bad, though. I mean, one day you're making $10,000 a month for a year. And then the next year you're making $7,500. The year after that, you're making $5,000. It's like, this is not going the way that I need this to go if you want me to keep doing this.

Sal Mayweather:Thank God that I have other streams of income. I've got the live stream that we have sponsors for. And I have my e-commerce stores, Agora Threads, and 3D Printer Go Burst. So I'm not beholden to that money.

Mark:78%, you said? Let's just call that 80%.

Sal Mayweather:Yeah. So my normal reach is down by that amount.

Mark:And you know this to be true, or this is just the cycle of how popular you are?

Sal Mayweather:No, so there's actually a prompt that you can enter into Grok. And it will tell you if you're shadowbanned, if so, how much and for what reasons. And I entered this prompt and it said, like I said, 65% to 80% de-boosted. And all of the reasons that they listed was using the word Israel and daily posting about Israel and anti-Zionist content. And all of this makes me suspect that Twitter has taken a payout from the Israeli government. But either way, I'm not going to stop speaking out against the wars. And they can take all my money. I'm still going to be anti-war.

Mark:So I too am anti-war. It's difficult, right? I've got Jewish friends that make the point that if, hey, look, just tell the Palestinians, hey, we're done messing with you. And they are not. They are definitely not done messing with the Palestinians. But if we did that, then they would just be awful. And that's the difficulty is that there's a whole bunch of history going back there. And it doesn't seem like anybody wants to give an inch.

Sal Mayweather:Yeah. See, my opinion is that the Palestinians shouldn't give an inch because they're the ones who are under occupation. So I don't really believe that an occupied people can be the aggressor. When they act out, that is necessarily, by definition, self-defense.

Mark:But what if they created a two-state solution? I mean, they've tried, or even a three-state solution for that matter. They tried that and they're shooting missiles over the wall.

Sal Mayweather:Yeah, right. Well, again, any two-state solution wouldn't necessarily take a piece of what was Palestine and be called Israel.

Mark:Oh, so you're not talking about the piece that's called Gaza. You're talking about the whole thing, right?

Sal Mayweather:The whole thing. That was Palestine up until World War I when the British came in. And they promised the same spit of land to the Arabs and the Zionists in exchange for their support during World War I. And most of world history can be traced back to the British, unfortunately. Most of the problems we have today start with--

Mark:Oh, those British. Well, the point I would make there is that at some point -- I mean, look at my gold tooth here in my mouth, right? Maybe a molecule of that belonged in King Solomon's mines, right? And some Jewish person could come along and claim my tooth because it's in part theirs. They have some claim on it.

Sal Mayweather:Yeah, no, I agree with you 100%. They are not winning the fight by any means necessary. Just as the Cuban rebels who just landed yesterday, they weren't successful either. And unless the U.S. government puts their finger on the scale to tip it, unfortunately, I don't see a clear path to victory for the Palestinians or the Cubans or the Native Americans. Realistically, it's not going to happen.

Mark:Sal, I do appreciate you coming on the show. Tell people how they can find you best. What's the best way to follow you?

Sal Mayweather:I'm on all your different social media platforms -- Twitter, Snapchat, Instagram. You can just look me up, Sal Mayweather. I'm sure it'll come up. Beware of the imposters. I will never DM you about crypto. And also check out our weekly live stream on X every Wednesday evening, 7:30 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. Eastern. And I will be on those as often as I can coming into the near future.

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